Episode 264: Segment 3, David Holmberg, long-time journalist opens up about the day he interviewed Roy Bryant, the husband of the woman who accused Emmett Till of touching her inappropriately.. So it was just like you know hush hush you know so I was told to keep my mouth shut and that's what I did. Interviewer: Have you studied the case by reading the papers perhaps? . Things are still unfolding in Emmetts case decades after the trial and years after Roy Bryants death. That was a way of life. Willie Reed, Mississippi Resident:And I was in the cotton field and I was pickin', I was pickin' cotton, pickin' cotton, and I looked across the field and there was about seven or eight peoples comin' across the field towards me, was white and black comin' that way. Their account appeared just four months after the acquittal. Emmett Till, a teen from Chicago, didn't understand that he had broken the unwritten laws of the Jim Crow South until three days later, when two white men dragged him from his bed in the dead of night, beat him brutally and then shot him in the head. And that's when I realized that this was a load that I was going to have to carry. In 1955, Mamie Till was unwillingly thrust into American history by her son's murder. Neighborhoods and schools were segregated, but the city offered the kind of freedom black Mississippians could only dream about. Black Man: I don't know whether they should or not. I mean the whole gym went crazy. One of them was "Isn't that just like a nigger to swim across the Tallahatchie with a gin fan around his neck?". The message to black people was clear: hide what you know; hide even what you think, or face the consequences. But it did happen. What happened to Roy Bryant and J.W. I remember Emmett raising his shirt up to about his navel and start making his belly roll, just waves of fat rollin' and it just broke us up. J.T. And as she went to the car, we all jumped in my uncle's car. Get the news that matters from one of the leading news sites in Kenya, Money, Mississippi, the United States of America, Lamborghini Urus: Kenyans Stunned as KSh 40 Million SUV Is Spotted in Mombasa, Jury hears Elon Musk told 'lies' that cost Tesla investors millions, Trump presses Facebook to restore his account, Video of Interracial Couple Married for 45 Years Warms Hearts: "Nothing Gonna Stop Us", Champagne celebrates record sales in 2022. Roy and his wife migrated to Indianola, Mississippi, where Bryant got a job as a mechanic. The kids outside said she was going to get a pistol. This issue of Look magazine contains the famous William Bradford Huie article detailing the "confession" of J. W. Milam and Roy Bryant to the kidnapping and murder of Emmett Till. Donham was quiet about her. Consequences was that almost anything could happen to anybody at anytime down there. The two men later confessed to the killing in a paid magazine . Roy's half-brother J.W. Milam, and one other white man with Emmett Till early that Sunday morning, and had heard the sounds of a beating coming from Milam's shed. Gode Davis January 24 Emmett Till murderers make magazine confession On January 24, 1956, Look magazine publishes the confessions of J.W. Stock Footage, Interview with Milam & Bryant after the Verdict:Interviewer: How do you folks feel now that it's all over? His actions at the trial were more I think, not to so much to say justice, or what was going on, but to be sure that his courtroom was totally segregated. Mamie: I don't know, just by answering whatever questions that they ask me. Bryant and his half-brother J.W. Ernest Withers, Photographer:I had a cousin that was living in Mississippi and was walking down the sidewalk down near downtown in Tunica and didn't get off the sidewalk and the man slapped him and knocked him off the sidewalk. Narrator:When Mamie Till arrived, she had to make her way through an unsympathetic crowd gathered on the courthouse lawn. Watch popular content from the following creators: cam(@officiallycamunbothered), cam(@officiallycamunbothered), Xavier(@prowrestlingref_xazv1292), Missy 313(@missmissy3131), LOCK(@vroydrillations), (@roybal_interviews), michaela(@iatethis), sportstok.tik(@sportstok.tik), Keano . Roy Bryant (born January 24, 1931 - died September 1, 1994) was an American Store Owner and Former Soldier from Money, Mississippi. At the same time, of course, they wrote about it with great relish because it was a good story. Milam came out. And said they wanted the boy that did the talk at Money. Roy Bryant and J.W. Mamie Till:I thought that pretty soon the crowd would die down. Milam helped out around the grocery. The next morning, Emmett and his mother grabbed his bags and rushed off to the 63rd Street station. He died in 1994. The murder and the trial horrified the nation and the world. After the trial, Roy lost his store after a boycott from the black community. (Enter your ZIP code for information on American Experience events and screening in your area.). I think everybody needed to know what had happened to Emmett Till. He was that kinda kid. And it said, "This is Mr. The Karla Brown story: What happened and the latest updates. The team discovered the warrant on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, in an archived file folder in the Leflore County Courthouse. The boy was so badly beaten that Moses Wright could identify Emmett only by his father's ring. However, Roy repeated the crime and served eight months in prison. After Emmett Till's murder trial, Carolyn and Roy's store in Money was closed upon the African-American community's boycott. Betty Pearson:I remember looking at the -- at that jury and even though I knew a good many of the men who were on the jury and, and they looked mean to me. - The graves of Roy Bryant & J.W. Narrator:Mamie Till testified that the body she'd examined and buried was indeed her son. Roy Bryant, with his half-brother J . I said, "Congressman, this is one verdict you don't want to be present to hear.". When he reached Chicago, he was hospitalized with a nervous breakdown. I kept on up until I got to his chin and then I -- I was forced to deal with his face. UCLA Film & Television Archive Milam Bryant Scratch:We took him and we was just gonna whip him, scare some sense into him. It was summer, and it was a good time to become a young man. Rebekah Suggs. Wheeler Parker:The day that we went to the store in Money, we were picking cotton first half of the day, and the second half, because it was so hot -- my uncle drove the car and we took off to Money to get some refreshments, just general things you buy in a store. Milam's truck out. The two had already been tried and . In some sections of the state there is a preponderance of colored citizens. White Woman: I'm almost convinced that the very beginning of this was by a communistic front. Donham's husband, Roy Bryant, and brother-in-law, J W Milam, kidnapped and brutally murdered Till on August 28, 1955, and dumped his body in the Tallahatchie River. It blew my mind. In an interview in 1992, Roy Bryant said, " Emmett Till is dead. (Laughs) It was somethin'. Oct. 19: Ruby Bridges became a civil rights icon at the age of 6, when she became the first African-American child to attend a previously all-white elementary school in New Orleans. In this 23 September 1955, file photo, JW Milam, left, and Roy Bryant, right, sit with their wives in a courtroom in Sumner, Mississippi. Margaret Crimmins Le Monde Gerald Chatham Even though the crime was savage, Roy and Milam got five local lawyers to represent them pro bono. Till offended Donham in some way, though accounts of the events differ. Sumner, Mississippi: Co-defendant J.W. Interviewer: What do you mean you don't know? And that is what led to the brutal murder of Emmett Till by Roy Bryant. Milam and Roy were later arrested for the murder. And we were doing the bop, that's the bebop, and we just danced and had fun. Schedule an interview today! Carolyn Bryant, right, was 21 when her husband Roy Bryant, left, lynched and murdered Emmett Till after he . Ed Clark/TimePix Interviewer: J.W.? To earn extra cash, Roy worked as a trucker with his half-brother J. W. Milam, an imposing man of six-feet-two inches, weighing 235 pounds. Milam were charged with Till's murder. But soon after the article came out, both men were ostracized. Whites looking at you. Written By: Ben Cosgrove. People die, pictures don't. Pictures keep dead people alive. Conozca a la influyente autora y figura clave del Renacimiento de Harlem. Rose Jourdain:I think black peoples' reaction was so visceral. Yeah. Milam laid bare the racism that ruled Mississippi. I mean -- I mean someone come and stand over you with a pistol in one hand and a flashlight and you're 16 years old; it's a terrifying experience. Recorded at Bias Studios, Fairfax, Virginia Moses Newson:That was a dramatic moment. Most white people, I think, had had convinced themselves that this was a defensible social system in which they lived. In 1945, Mamie got word that Private Till had died in Europe. AP. According to the release forms signed by Milam and Carolyn Bryant (no release signed by Roy Bryant appears to exist), the men were paid $3,150 for their story. Police can now seek her arrest. J.W. Prince Harry: The 60 Minutes Interview . Milam (far left) were charged with murder but were ultimately acquitted by an all-white jury. Specifically, Roy Bryant is a murderer, torturer, Kidnapper, and many more. My uncle Simmie did wake up, but they told him to go back to sleep. Center for the Study of Southern Culture, University of Mississippi However, he married Vera Jo Orman later in life. New York Post Hilary Goldstein She graduated from high school at the top of her class, and became one of the first black women in town to hold a civil service job. Milam, of the 1955 kidnapping and murder of Till. And we don't intend to. Historic Films We were just all good friends. Akilah Kweli, SPECIAL THANKS Rose Jourdain, journalist They agreed not to tell their husbands, who were out of town on a trucking job. People became vocal who had never vocalized before. Check your inbox to be the first to know the hottest news. "The . Willie Reed, Mississippi Resident:I could hear all this beatin' and I could hear this beatin' and I could here this cryin' and cryin' and beatin', and I'm saying to myself, "They beatin' somebody up there." Clara Davis:The town of Money was one street with maybe five or six stores, but that's all. He was charged $750 for this crime and served three years probation. Special Collections, University of Mississippi Libraries And then they began to question me about this here. . Wright said he saw a person in the car, possibly Carolyn, who helped identify Emmett. Filmed interview with William Bradford Huie conducted for America, They Loved You Madly, a precursor to Eyes on the Prize. Bill Minor In August 1955, a 14-year-oldBlack boyallegedly flirted with a white woman in a grocery store in Money, Mississippi. You know how hard they are to burn? Other sources claim that he had spoken disrespectfully to her. And, of course, Emmett Till begged us not to tell my grandfather what had took place. He gained popularity because of the brutal murder of Emmett Till. The stores soon went out of business. Roy Bryant and his half-brother J.W. Milam. Lois Walker, Archivist, Chicago Defender Carolyn told her sister-in-law, Juanita, who was in the back of the store with their children, what had happened. They thought they could run over the judge and the sheriff and everybody over there. A Mississippi sheriff becomes a symbol of southern intransigence in the Emmett Till case. But after the acquittal, in the magazine article, Bryant and Milam described the killing. She said, "Mr. Rayner, I want to see my son.". John E. Allen, Inc. Bryant and Milam had already been rounded up as murder suspects, and Southern papers were decrying the "savage crime." Engineered by Bob Dawson, SOUND EDITORS Carolyn also stated that she couldnt utter the unprintable word he had used. He throwed his head up there, just like that. Then he said, "Well, we'll be down there in a little while," and he sent deputies down here to go with me and we took the boat and went up the river. In the early morning hours of August 28, 1955, Roy Bryant, his half-brother, J.W. Chicago Tribune Company Because -- those white folks were for real. That's what he did. Those who have not been to the Delta find themselves gasping at the sight as they come over the lowest hills and see that expanse of flat agricultural land. JW Milam (left) and Roy Bryant (right) confessed to Emmett Till's killing in 1956 after being found not guilty. In 1955, Emmett Till, a 14-year-old Black boy, was kidnapped, tortured and killed in Mississippi after he allegedly whistled at a white woman. I fired and the Chicago boy twisted around and caught it right in his ear. It was just a magnificent reaction to a very ugly thing that had taken place in this country. The store was located at one end of the main street in the tiny town of Money, the heart of the cotton-growing Mississippi Delta. Now, with the eyes of the nation turning to Mississippi, the state appointed a special prosecutor and filed charges. One-way train fare of $11.10 took them to a different world. This program was produced by WGBH Boston, Card:After the trial, black customers boycotted Bryant's store, forcing it out of business. June 24, 2022 - 12:55 BST Hannah Hargrave. Magnolia Cooksey-Mathious:It was on a Sunday afternoon. Most white Americans at that time were saying things such as the Emmett Till murder had happened back in slavery times. Clarence Strider Jr.:People are used to doin' thang normal around here. William Winter, former Mississippi Governor:The Till Case held the whole system up for inspection by the rest of the country and by the rest of the world. He later went to welding school. Milam, abducted Till and tortured him to death. I said, "It's time for us to go." The three defendants in the case, Roy Bryant, Carolyn Bryant, and J.W. Sign up for the American Experience newsletter! Roy Bryant and his co-accused ended up living miserable lives and died of cancer. His body was taken to a funeral home owned by A.A. Rayner, who had promised Mississippi authorities that he would keep the casket nailed shut. Shack Up Inn According to witnesses, on his way out of the store, Emmett turned to Carolyn Bryant and whistled. Emmett Till's body is taken to Chicago's Roberts Temple Church of God for viewing and funeral services. Black Man: I really don't know sir. In 1955, Carolyn Bryant Donham (then just Carolyn Bryant), a 21-year-old white woman, accused Emmett Till, a 14-year-old Black boy, of making an unwelcome advance at her. My eyes were so full of tears until I couldn't see. In every community in Mississippi, there is segregation of the races. On January 24, 1956, they confessed their crime in a paid interview with Look magazine. Tracye A. Matthews, ARCHIVAL FILM Historian, public speaker and author Danielle McGuire PhD and journalism professor and author Allissa Richardson speak with the Gen-Z historian Kahlil Greene about the role of the media in shaping public perception around the murders of Black Americans. People disappeared. When Roy and J. W. returned, one of the kids at the scene told them what had occurred. Warren Hampton:Black people wasn't speaking out about the Emmett Till Case at that particular time because they knew that it could happen to them. It had sex, it had murder, it had mystery. It was traumatic for me for -- for months. Narrator:Strider consigned black reporters and Detroit Congressman Charles Diggs to a card table on the sidelines. Mrs. Milam: Fine. Then we carried him to the, up to the other landin' and put him in the hearse. We went to grammar school together. According to her, she was scared to death. Mamie Till:Those words were like arrows sticking all over my body. It was from this shack the state alleges Emmett Till was taken by Roy Bryant & J.W. Interviewer: And how about you Mrs. Milam? The 235-pound Milam was a hard drinking man with a reputation for being tough on anyone who got in his way. In 1955, over a year after Brown had overturned separate but equal and just two months before Rosa Parks would change civil rights forever on a Montgomery bus, Huie sat in the law office of J.J. Breland and John Whitten, two of the five defense counsel for two of Till's killersJ.W. He was 14, but he just turned 14. Wheeler Parker, Cousin:The house was a dark as a thousand midnights. Milam, received notoriety for the alleged murder of a 14-year-old Black youth named Emmett Louis Till. (Enter your ZIP code for information on American Experience events and screening in your area.). Milam: I am too. Enduring Legacy: The Emmett Till murder shaped the . Trudy Williams They confessed how they killed the young man. It was rumored J.W. . Mamie Till:He thought I was exaggerating, which I was. Now in her mid-80s, her current status and whereabouts are kept private by her family, though. Then, Emmett went in and bought two cents' worth of bubblegum. Milam was at a store in nearby Minter City when the Leflore County sheriff caught up with him. They had two sons and lived in two small rooms in the back of the store. Interview was given in 2007 and has only now come to light in a book published today . It was just it just -- oh, it -- it was a mess. Mamie Till:Chicago was a land of promise and they thought that milk and honey was everywhere. Rev. And he got up, and instead of killin' the white man like he wanted, he just start walkin' and never stopped until he got to Memphis and never stopped until he got up to Chicago. Narrator:Emmett rode the Illinois Central 16 hours out of Chicago to the Mississippi Delta. There's one of his shoes here." So we're talkin' about a way of life that in this part of the country that was enforced by law. Those accusations led. Robert E. Luckett Jr. LOOK Magazine, January 24, 1956. I mean it's -- I mean someone come and stand over you with a pistol in one hand and a flashlight and you're 16 years old it's a terrifying experience, very terrifying. They had two sons and lived in two small rooms in the back of the store. There was an almost irrational fear of black men as if every black man was ready to attack or rape a white woman if you gave him a chance. An only child, young Mamie was the hope of her family of former sharecroppers. While whites begrudgingly recognized African Americans, they were unwilling to accept them as social and racial equals. What are the best websites to watch and download Indian TV series? That these kinds of things were not of their generation, that they no longer happened in America. Howard and author Devery Anderson each concluded that Roy Bryant learned of what happened at the store from someone other than his wife. Nancy Farrell We ain't going to mix 'em. It was in a curve in a drift and a foot was stickin' up and we tore into the drift and got to him and, you know, got him out. Milam as the men who abducted Till, but the all-white, all-male jury acquitted them. The murder trial of Roy Bryant and his half-brother J.W. With the words "separate educational facilities are inherently unequal," the Supreme Court reversed legalized segregation. We forgot about it. Mamie Till Mobley, Emmett Till's mother Narrator:Mainstream newspapers and magazines spread the story of the 14-year-old black boy who'd been brutally killed for whistling at a white woman. Wright had been in hiding since the night of the kidnapping, and had been threatened with death. No one ever did time for Emmett Till's murder. Stock footage of Tallahatchie River w/commentary:This is the muddy back woods Tallahatchie River where a weighted body was found alleged to be that of young Emmett Till. Milam prided himself on knowing how to "handle" blacks. The next year Bryant and Milan were paid between $3600 and $4000 for an interview with Look magazine. The boys wore polyester pants, crepe soled shoes. White Man: Well sir, I'll tell ya' right now, if he gets justice they'll turn him a loose. Milam and Roy Bryant never faced additional charges connected with the murder. If they would keep their nose and mouths out of our business we would be able to do more and enforcing the laws of Tallahatchie County and Mississippi. After their acquittal in the Emmett Till trial, defendant Roy Bryant (right), smokes a cigar as his wife happily embraces him and his half brother, J.W. Robert E. Luckett, Jr. After delivering his testimony, Reed was smuggled out of Mississippi. Shortly afterwards, the defendants sold their story, includingtheir tale of how they murdered Till, to a journalist. And the way the jury chose to believe the ridiculous stories of the defense attorneys. The jury of 12 white men who acquitted Emmett Till's killers in 1955. In 1982, it was discovered by the Inspector Generals Office of the U.S Department of Agriculture that Roy was buying food stamps and selling them back to the government at full value. Harry Caise, mortician The photos of Emmett Till's mutilated body stunned the nation. And I told him I did. Unfortunately, Vera passed away on May 2, 2012, at 79. They would just go into a faint. Wheeler Parker:Anything goin' on, he's in the middle of all -- all of it and he just loved to play ball. The couple ran a small grocery, Bryant's Grocery & Meat Market, that sold provisions to black. Donham's husband, Roy Bryant, and his half-brother, J.W. L'Humanite Apart from it, he is an owner of a grocery store. Most were men who had been accused of associating with white women. Milam and Bryant were acquitted of the murder of Emmett Till. When they were acquitted, the men later sold their story for $4,000 to reporter William Bradford Huie. What was Roy Bryants ethnicity? SOUND RECORDISTS Meet the influential author and key figure of the Harlem Renaissance. A German bullet tore clear through his chest; his body bears "multiple shrapnel wounds." Of his medals, he cherishes one: combat infantryman's badge. I said, "No, Mr. Rayner, let the people see what I've seen." You are already subscribed to our newsletter! He feared paying for his crimes before he died. MS. State Sen. David Jordan This situation has brought problems, it has created challenges, but most important of all, it has inspired a social system to meet the challenge. At the 1955 trial, Wright identified Roy Bryant and J.W. Soundprint Media Center Warren Hampton, Mississippi resident I won't ever forget, it was a Sunday afternoon. His half-brother J. W. followed him soon after. Bryant accused 14-year-old Till of sexual assault. which is solely responsible for its content. Roy Bryant (far . Roy Bryant (January 24 th, 1931 - September 1 st, 1994) was one of the two people (the other being his half-brother J.W. Black men did not touch white women. Discover the fascinating story of this iconic American garment. On a steamy Wednesday afternoon, Emmett and seven other teenagers piled into Moses Wright's old Ford and headed to Bryant's grocery. And a push to implement the new law on school desegregation had whites from the delta to the statehouse spitting fire. They beat him until near death, gouged out one of his eyes, shot him and dumped his body into the Tallahatchie River. Mamie Till:They summed up by saying, "Isn't it true that you and the NAACP got your heads together and you came down here and with their help, you all dug up a body and you have claimed that body to be your son? 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